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	<title>Comments on: Meet the JeeNode USB v3</title>
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		<title>By: Jan Werner</title>
		<link>http://jeelabs.org/2010/03/19/meet-the-jeenode-usb-v3/#comment-1276</link>
		<dc:creator>Jan Werner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 22:07:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;just another link to such a supercap &quot;battery&quot;
http://www.scribd.com/doc/17684600/SuperCap-Battery&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Ok 2-3 years, should be fairly enought for every project i&#039;d guess.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rechargeable_battery#Table_of_rechargeable_battery_technologies&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I was more looking into a proove of concept mesh network of small and cheap nodes.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;hmm&lt;/em&gt; on vacation and thinking about wireless mesh networks &lt;em&gt;not good&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just another link to such a supercap &#8220;battery&#8221;
<a href="http://www.scribd.com/doc/17684600/SuperCap-Battery" rel="nofollow">http://www.scribd.com/doc/17684600/SuperCap-Battery</a></p>

<p>Ok 2-3 years, should be fairly enought for every project i&#8217;d guess.
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rechargeable_battery#Table_of_rechargeable_battery_technologies" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rechargeable_battery#Table_of_rechargeable_battery_technologies</a></p>

<p>I was more looking into a proove of concept mesh network of small and cheap nodes.</p>

<p><em>hmm</em> on vacation and thinking about wireless mesh networks <em>not good</em></p>
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		<title>By: John Crouchley</title>
		<link>http://jeelabs.org/2010/03/19/meet-the-jeenode-usb-v3/#comment-1272</link>
		<dc:creator>John Crouchley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 17:03:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Looking forward to seeing the LiPo charger on a &#039;normal&#039; JeeNode.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looking forward to seeing the LiPo charger on a &#8216;normal&#8217; JeeNode.</p>
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		<title>By: jcw</title>
		<link>http://jeelabs.org/2010/03/19/meet-the-jeenode-usb-v3/#comment-1271</link>
		<dc:creator>jcw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 16:58:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yes, Lightly / the mystery JeeNode has been patiently sitting here, waiting for a better power solution. I may or may not use the JUv3 for this. The other option I&#039;ve been wanting to explore is a simpler one - just short out to the solar cell when the LiPo is full. See http://news.jeelabs.org/2009/10/20/solar-power/&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The capacitor you describe requires a &quot;supercap&quot; to store sufficient energy. These are not that much more economical than LiPo&#039;s. I&#039;m not sure LiPo batteries will last only 1..2 years in this context, since they are being charged/discharged at fairly low rates.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Nice link about Radish - thanks.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Note that harvesting solar energy indoor is hard. The levels of light are orders of magnitude less than out under the sun. See http://www.eevblog.com/2009/12/04/eevblog-48-solar-power-hope/ for an entertaining video about this.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Lightly / the mystery JeeNode has been patiently sitting here, waiting for a better power solution. I may or may not use the JUv3 for this. The other option I&#8217;ve been wanting to explore is a simpler one &#8211; just short out to the solar cell when the LiPo is full. See <a href="http://news.jeelabs.org/2009/10/20/solar-power/" rel="nofollow">http://news.jeelabs.org/2009/10/20/solar-power/</a></p>

<p>The capacitor you describe requires a &#8220;supercap&#8221; to store sufficient energy. These are not that much more economical than LiPo&#8217;s. I&#8217;m not sure LiPo batteries will last only 1..2 years in this context, since they are being charged/discharged at fairly low rates.</p>

<p>Nice link about Radish &#8211; thanks.</p>

<p>Note that harvesting solar energy indoor is hard. The levels of light are orders of magnitude less than out under the sun. See <a href="http://www.eevblog.com/2009/12/04/eevblog-48-solar-power-hope/" rel="nofollow">http://www.eevblog.com/2009/12/04/eevblog-48-solar-power-hope/</a> for an entertaining video about this.</p>
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		<title>By: Jan Werner</title>
		<link>http://jeelabs.org/2010/03/19/meet-the-jeenode-usb-v3/#comment-1270</link>
		<dc:creator>Jan Werner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 16:37:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;nice one.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&#039;d guess you plan on taking on your &quot;self-sustaining solar node&quot; again.
(http://news.jeelabs.org/2009/07/03/mystery-jeenode/)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&#039;d love to see more of this coming.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;just thinking a few steps further.
Thought I do not know much about capacitors, but wouldn&#039;t a capacitor as energy reservoir make this node even last over years.
I mean even a LIPO cell will reach it&#039;s end of it&#039;s lifetime in what 1-2 year(s)?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;like this one:
(http://code.google.com/intl/de-DE/apis/gdata/articles/radish.html)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This would turn the node into a real self-sustaining node, there is no maintenance required (f.e. changing the LIPO cell once a year).
Once the node is able to update itself via wireless (which is just a matter of time if not already solved), such a node could even run for 10+ years.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nice one.</p>

<p>I&#8217;d guess you plan on taking on your &#8220;self-sustaining solar node&#8221; again.
(<a href="http://news.jeelabs.org/2009/07/03/mystery-jeenode/" rel="nofollow">http://news.jeelabs.org/2009/07/03/mystery-jeenode/</a>)</p>

<p>I&#8217;d love to see more of this coming.</p>

<p>just thinking a few steps further.
Thought I do not know much about capacitors, but wouldn&#8217;t a capacitor as energy reservoir make this node even last over years.
I mean even a LIPO cell will reach it&#8217;s end of it&#8217;s lifetime in what 1-2 year(s)?</p>

<p>like this one:
(<a href="http://code.google.com/intl/de-DE/apis/gdata/articles/radish.html" rel="nofollow">http://code.google.com/intl/de-DE/apis/gdata/articles/radish.html</a>)</p>

<p>This would turn the node into a real self-sustaining node, there is no maintenance required (f.e. changing the LIPO cell once a year).
Once the node is able to update itself via wireless (which is just a matter of time if not already solved), such a node could even run for 10+ years.</p>
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		<title>By: jcw</title>
		<link>http://jeelabs.org/2010/03/19/meet-the-jeenode-usb-v3/#comment-1268</link>
		<dc:creator>jcw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 15:29:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;MAX1555&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: Mikkel Müller</title>
		<link>http://jeelabs.org/2010/03/19/meet-the-jeenode-usb-v3/#comment-1267</link>
		<dc:creator>Mikkel Müller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 15:02:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;What is the name/stats of the lipo charger chip?&lt;/p&gt;
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